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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:54 am 
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Hello Robert
:oops: have nothing wise to tell....what to do?

If you have clear limits and the clear understanding what kind of person do you search - it means almost the half of the way ;)
As I heard from other girls and as I feel myself the nicest age difference is 10-15 years. I don't think if more the girl would be serious with you.
Only my oppinion (I have met the same oppinion at the forum twice)...I prefer the age NLT +5 NMT +15...I don't speak with men who are younger or my age....as a ruler they have to search somebody more young so what for to waist my time?
hmmm...I don't think at 40 there are many women who are ready to have a child, but at 35-36 it is real. Nevertheless ask her may be not at the first letters because woman wants a child only from the person she can trust...if there is no trust between you why children?
Green card - I can't tell surely. I know nobody who wants to marry only because to change the country. To change the life yes. What makes the woman to ask divoice at the foreign country? Is it really better for her to be alone and to provide herself. Is her life easier far from the native country? She meets somebody better? - why not you the best guy at the world for her? may be you consider that you paid and bought her for ever and don't need to do any efforts any more...may be you consider she needs nothing if she doesn't work...can you find a job for her? - not push her to the foreign world "go and search" but help to get
Green card - if the woman had at home good situation - home, children, good job - it is difficult to change something good for something better but unknowen - don't think that the green card would be a good reason for her to do any steps
Green card — to change the country is really very very difficult....the girl have to possess a little bit adventured character...I have 4 friends all of them are single mums, all dream to find a good man but only I am really ready to change the country IF i shall find my ideal person — the other don't even keep in mind it is possible, they don't share my ideas about search at the internet and scare me by different terrible stories :D

These are my own thoughts about the question — I don't apply they are common for all


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:45 pm 
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I just had to get in on this one! Excellent question! Simple answer wink wink!

Who doesn't want a young hot chick?! If you found a girl who was extraordinary in every other way except fitting your desirable or self described acceptable age range... what moron would say, "Hell no! You're too young!"

The fact is that age is just a number (we've all heard that). Look for compatibility! Holy crap! If you found love in the form of a wonderful woman OF ANY AGE (appropriately old enough) I should hope we'd all have brains enough to sweep her off her feet!

Here's a thought: if you are here, then there is something drawing you here. The fact is that I find these women superbly attractive (you must agree?). Also a fact: most of the ladies we meet here speak English as a second (or third, fourth...) language! The fundamental connections that create "love, relationships, compatibility, desire, fulfillment, etc" are positively universal! There WILL be a language barrier in any relationship between individuals whose native languages are different! I have had several students who were adopted from Russian orphanages at a very young age. Having no accent you could not possibly know that any of them were Russian unless you were told. Something happens though in early childhood development that intrinsically bonds us to our native "language". There are things that can't be translated nor have the same implicit meanings when they are translated. The rest? People are people! We understand one another. If you are that strongly committed to "age barriers" then you don't have a prayer of overcoming language or cultural barriers. If it is love, connection, or compatibility you are after, then the same sentiments that would overcome distance and cultural and language differences/implications/ramifications would naturally help you overcome an age difference... seriously... think about it! If you want what matters then age is such a small factor in the equation!

That being said: Each man is different and as individual as his wants, needs, and desires! (Equally as unique and significant as these lovely lovely ladies we are so lucky to associate with here at LP). It begs consideration that a man with a 23 year old daughter should rightfully feel somewhat apprehensive about engaging a girl who's younger than his own daughter! Let's not be creeps if we can avoid it! But the same should be considered when two people meet and find each other's company to be remarkably fulfilling... completing one another's desires. Why would any guy who has a brain in his head walk away from love because of age (age being lawfully appropriate)??? I have been miserably lonely in my life before! As a 32 year old I WOULD NOT walk away from a 50 year old woman if I was in love (I'd rather the 20 year old, but I'm no idiot! I will allow life to travel its course). Trying to decide and set parameters for love and connection is a losing battle. When opportunity knocks, don't be the retard who didn't even answer the door!

So, the "age conundrum"? It is quite clear. Decide what your personal boundaries are and why. Don't let the "boundaries of others" decide the limits of your own! Don't let your boundaries "decide" the limits of others! Don't set your sights based upon arbitrary expectations! Have no expectations at all! When you are lucky enough to meet a gal, simply know where you stand and where she does. Let life happen and let the cards fall where they may.

Life is best experienced not by the guy who takes the bull by the horns, but by the guy who hops on the bull and hangs on for dear life to see where he stands! Life is going to take you for a ride anyway, and there's nothing you can do about it! If you believe otherwise, then you are stupid and/or ridiculously inexperienced in life and shouldn't be having this conversation anyway. It is above you and all you stand for! The fact we are here having this conversation tells us you are on board!

I admire the guy who can ask this question: 20 year old woman? He asks with conscious and concern for propriety and decency! He is likely the kind of guy who deserves love and will ultimately find it because he cares enough to at least try to do the "right thing". I admire it!

As for me? I am the jackass who has tried "life" with all the "wrong" people. If I were a smarter man I would have done it "right" by now and wouldn't be online looking for love! I don't pretend to be "right" because I OBVIOUSLY don't know what that is or I wouldn't be here!

I do know this: If you're looking for "age" you're looking for something stupid! Ages are easy to find: they are clearly posted with every profile. If you want "age" you could just look in obituaries. There are ages easily found in obituaries. As for me: I am looking for everything else!

I am not so sure I know what love is, but I am certain I haven't found it yet; because true love as I have always dreamed of it never ends! I am not there, so I must conclude I have not found it... BUT I WANT IT! And I promise I would NEVER walk right past it over something stupid like age. If I was "shopping" for a new truck I would have specific requirements... but I am looking for that woman that makes my life whole! Because I have never been "whole" (made obvious by the fact I am still looking) I am not sure what I am looking for! I will not be so stupid as to eliminate ANY possibilities over circumstances I have no control over (SUCH AS WHEN SOMEONE WAS BORN!!! I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT).

SO...

Meet... date... enjoy the gift of the uniqueness of another who chooses to share themselves with you... rinse and repeat until you find yourself enjoying the bliss of what the rest of us would like to call love.

Don't give up, and if you do nothing else: don't pretend to know what it is until you have it! If your true love has passed away, I offer my condolences! If your "beloved" is still alive and you are here then it was NOT LOVE or she would be with you and you would not be here. Everything else was B.S.! True love dies with you (another conversation).

Look for what makes your universe brighter, and quit trying to "make" it happen! Let it happen!

NO MATTER WHAT!

As for me: Young hotties boost my ego and are fun to look at and touch given the opportunity! If I happen to find one who is the package deal (brains, humor, depth, sensitivity, looks great in a bikini), I shall conclude I have hit the jackpot! I will think of the rest of you as I "spend my fortune": while you still wander in darkness thinking about "age" and stuff!

Best of luck! These gals are awesome! I hope it is all of you laughing at me as I struggle to find my match long after you have found your own!

Nothin but love'

Jason


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:55 am 
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Well down! :)


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:32 pm 
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Its interesting what you are printing, I belive that age is just a number, and I belive it must be up to the two individs that are meeting if they belive that age is a problem. I´m only here to delite my account, I have find the love of my life, I have just forgetten that I had this account, but I just have to respond to this topic.
My wife is 23 years old, wee are expecting our first child in april 2010, wee have a fantastic life together, so for mee I can only say that it was right, people around mee was reacting strange for start, but now they see how beautiful life wee have, our family have so mush love inside so you can not imagine, the only time wee think about the difference in age is when wee see topic like this, its redicoulous, let people fall in love and let people see age as a number, because that is all what it is. Me I´m 42, I love my beatiful and young wife, I would not change it for anything in the world.


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:13 pm 
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Hello everybody, I have been reading the posts here with great interest and would like to add my own comments. First of all, I am a 48 year old Englishman and I live in Russia. I have done so for 12 years. I think it gives me a different perspective on this issue. Incidentally, my current girlfriend is 23 years old and the previous one was 19 years younger than me so, I have some first hand experience of relationships with younger women. Personally, I am just not attracted to women of my own age and I am not sure why. I certainly not ashamed of it. Women of any age can come with emotional baggage and the drama queen mentality and these personality traits are also sometimes exhibited by men. That is not the issue here. The first thing that you have to understand is that age discrimination does not exist in Russia. We are just men and women. Above a certain age we are adults and this is at the heart of this issue. Russian girls are certainly more mature than an American or European girls of the same age, perhaps that is because they are exposed to some of lifes harsh realities from an earlier age, anyway it is a fact. Of course, it is only natural that they look for security and stability in a relationship and statistically that is something that an older man is more likely to provide.
To understand young Russian women, you also have to understand young Russian men, hard drinking, irresponsible, reckless and of course these traits are those of young men everywhere. So, there we have it, take a young Russian women who has had a hard time with her previous boyfriend, throw in a stable and reliable foreign man and the attraction is obvious. It is not as cut and dried as looking for a financial sponsor or a green card so, forget about those pre-concieved ideas guys and give those younger women a chance. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:18 pm 
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Excellent insights! Of course my thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:07 am 
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I have a question to those man -- Swillis . He is married to this young lady or lives with it as with the mistress? In Russia it is an essential difference. Probably, she thinks of other future, any more with this man. If such prospectis suit both of them, then why not...
Sorry, but psychologists say: the senior man chooses younger girlfriend when he has some complexes in his personal. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:29 am 
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We are not married and we do not live together.

As an older women yourself, you may try to over complicate this issue but perhaps we (myself and other men in my position) just find younger women more attractive!.

My advice to men who are looking for love here, love is where you find it, try to be open minded and go with the flow.......age should be immaterial other than as a personal preference.

Your friendly self styled love guru....Sexy Simon from Saint Petersburg !!!!!. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:54 am 
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swillis said; "As an older women yourself, you may try to over complicate this issue but perhaps we (myself and other men in my position) just find younger women more attractive!."

Yes, you do! But you never know, that the younger girl actually thinks of it :D Whether she wants the future with you or you are simply step for support of her following step. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:21 am 
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Sexy Simon from Saint Petersburg!
May be you know: it's a lot of women of my age receive letters from younger men. And women just find younger men more attractive too. But women think and love not only at a body :D


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:00 am 
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amazinjason wrote:
Young hotties boost my ego and are fun to look at and touch given the opportunity! If I happen to find one who is the package deal (brains, humor, depth, sensitivity, looks great in a bikini), I shall conclude I have hit the jackpot! I will think of the rest of you as I "spend my fortune": while you still wander in darkness thinking about "age" and stuff!

:lol: :lol: :lol: Boys, boys, boys!!! Always your ego!!!
You see dear boys the question is not to find "one who is the package deal (brains, humor, depth, sensitivity, looks great in a bikini)" there are hundreds, thousands such young out of the ordinary girls...the question is what to do if you have found her ;) whether she is ready seriously contact just with you.
I thought we are speaking about how to make minimal the risk of such situations as:
:cry: "I sent her money but she didn't come"
:cry: "We were happy 3 years and unhappy 6"
:cry: "Poor old man 60 years is bitten by his young wife from Belarus who is 30 years old"
I want to say if you prefer young hotties (that is naturel)...you must be ready that the risk of situations "I sent her money but she didn't come" is more greater the more years you have yourself. When you are near 40 and you are near 50 guess yourself where the risk is more. Such young hotty can think: «Ok, may be not good sex (hmmm...has he his own teeth at this age???) but may be stable good life at least» Don't forget a lot of russian men are not in good health at 50.

So dear boys (who prefer young hotties) when you contact with such young hotties it is normal she can be indifferent to you. Not bad or good just indifferent. Don't take this fact as a dramma or a tragic event. Don't cry «They all are the same!!! I will not be happy, I will never find anybody honest». You like risk so have as much risk as you want.

If you want to make this risk a little bit lower so try with the woman who in age is closer to you.
I don't insist...certainly there are lucky couples where the wife is less than 30 and the man is near/over 50.... I don't know why such cases are more frequent with rich men ;) but nevertheless such cases take place. So you have the great possibility also.

:lol: :D By the way I can imagin situation :lol: :lol:
- Dear lets go to the bowling or for dancing or lets go for a walk.
- Ohh...no...I have great pain at the back (leg and ect.) and need a rest. Better take any younger friend with you
or may be
- Ohh...no...I have great pain at the back (leg and ect.) and need a rest. Better clean the windows or the house.

Certainly it would be an exciting life for her.

As for the situation the man 48 changes the girl 19 for the girl 23 but now is still in search — so this is his way of life. May be it is really good in 48 not to have stable family (hmmm...children???) change nice girls every month (hmmm...get something venereal as a result). This is his way of life — very bright and funny.


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:30 am 
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Oh dear Jason, another disgruntled older woman trying to put the negative slant on our posts....I am only taking the time to respond because I want to straighten out a few things for Olga as follows;

1/. I have been with my current girlfriend for 6 months. I do not have any sexually transmitted diseases!.

2/. I am not "searching". I am not a paid member but I do check my mail from time to time, why not, I made some
friends here (both male and female).

3/. I was with the previous partner, 19 years younger than me, not 19 years old (she is now 29 yrs) for 7 years
and we have a son. I keep a very good connection with him (6yrs old). Next week we will go on holiday
together alone to spend quality time together. I also have two children in UK that I visit regularly and they
visit me here. I spend more quaility time with them now than I did when I was married to their mother.

4/. Internet scammers can be male (masquerading as women) as well as female and from any age group, not just
younger women. This is well publicised.

So, Olga stop being so cynical, chill out and find yourself a young man....................


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
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Bravo Simon! I think if a younger man knocked on her door her curiosity would let him in. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
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Oh I forgot to mention about the sex and if I do not mention that, it will be interpreted by some (Lymargo, Olga) as a cop out. On that subject, sex is very good, she is and always has been attracted to older men. If and when we ever get bored she will doubt be open minded enough to experiment and I will have the experience to guide her ..........

I also wanted to add to Lymargo that my attraction to younger women is not entirely physical, I find that they are are not as emotionally weathered and cynical (Olga) as many older women and particularly divorced older women. It is very refreshing to be with someone who does not have physical or emotional barriers and being with Mila (yes I know Ludmilla) has reminded me, at a very important time, that life is simply for living........ :)

If you both really feel so bad, why not change your profiles to target men in their 70s and 80s and then you will be younger women :idea:

Love God and Sex Guru, Sexy Simon from Saint Petersburg............ ;)


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 Post subject: Re: 20-year old woman?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:58 pm 
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Love God and Sex Guru, Sexy Simon from Saint Petersburg!
Sorry! It's your own way and your life. But I dont see there happy family. It seems, only two independent people who have everyone an own life and also meet only for sex and joint rest. Why not?
But the beginning of conversation was not about it...

chilltown!
Can you find the girl of 20 years for yourself? Possibly, no. Otherwise why you so are aggressive? :D
Oh! Have recollected! You want, that she has fallen with you in love, whether instead of asked you are capable to contain it? :o


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