How this woman took my money and never appeared !!!!

An excellent and valid point Smurf - one that shoud be followed to the letter!!!
And its somewhat stomach churning when a women asks for money for a bus-fare, yet she can afford to sit perched on a computers 24/7. Maybe they should be saving and not surfing. Jesus!!! If they cant afford the bus fare or will not help themselves, then best left on the shelf. Beggars cant be choosers.



Something i read on a website earlier with regards to scammers:
"Scammers are the vermin of life. People who promise and talk about much, but lie through their teeth. Usually hiding their identities like cowards and social out-casts, without a real photo and without a spine, sometimes faces covered by satalite shaped sunglasses . They slither onto the forums, again hiding their real identities, because these are gutless duras who promise with lies. They spend countless hours on the dating sites, hovering like flies around shit. Always without a real photo. Would you beleive that some even promise to pay money and not just steal it".

Anyone can offer to pay for this mans losses - talk is cheap, few deliver and invertabrates a plenty. Return under your rock please and await high tide.
The author of this thread mikifein: Be careful of incredulous offers like a woman offering to pay for your losses, as they will most probably demand money in advance before they pay. Pinnochio move over!

I have read the ladies forum and their point of view is so far off from the men’s perhaps it’s cultural or they just don’t see it as a problem. However anyone who has ever been taken feels themselves as a fool, and who wants to repeat the same mistake twice. I also have read where several of the ladies have written that they should accept every vacation offer even if you don’t like the man. At least you get to travel. For me this is deceptive and a scam as well. I will read what the ladies write and if they have written their views to include this type of scam then I will move on. None of us are here to buy vacations for these ladies or to be suckered out of even a single dollar and if the lady does not see this as well then perhaps you should move on to someone who does see it as well.

She could sound so very nice, BUT whatever you do PLEASE do NOT send any MONEY, IT'S the last you will see of it belive me i know from expereance.

Yes Mike - excellent points!!! We are worlds aways from some of them with regards to culture, etiquette and manners. And yes, it's definately a form of unscrupulous scammery, when some want 'just a holiday and travel'. But of course, this particular breed are not ladies so best get these checked out by the local vet for SDS s and a clean bill of health before the vacation

This a a letter in the ladies forum
Dear men.
I want to talk with you about our travel The situation with sending money for tickets is very unpleasant and not clear, because with the online booking Airlines return money for tickets at cancellation.
I would like to clear a situation with our travel. Many men from a site wish to meet the woman from the small city, not spoilt and a consonant to live in a small city too. The process of reception of visas to Russian (Ukrainian) women is difficult. Many embassies, especially American and English embassies, demand acknowledgement of the material status of the woman. Thus, the sum of a spare cash on our account should be 1500 dollars minimum. Not all women have credit cards (especially, the women living in small cities), and the debit account at many is closed with financial crisis. Besides, the invitation from the man we have no guarantee for visa. The English embassy often refuses to the women having the invitation. Therefore, to receive the visa, we should reserve the hotel too. Please, count, in how much this trip manages to us ?
I am going to USA in September. For 100% guarantees of the visa I had to buy a full tourist trip. Its cost of 3000 dollars. There is a big money, I never would spend such sum only for a meeting with the man if we were not familiar with him.
There are cases when the woman pays for tourist trip, but has not the visa. Not all travel agencies return money, as a result, agreeing to visit you, we are very much risk. It is not necessary to think that all of us scammers. Better come to us to Russia (Ukraine) on the first meeting. You can see the woman and will be assured, to invite her to your country, or not.
In any case, even if the first meeting will appear unsuccessful, at us many beautiful women, you can meet your half in the street, in cafe and other places.

Was'nt there a seperate thread for questions from the ladies Mike? Personally I feel it best to confine their comments to one thread, otherwise it will be end up as one joint forum. Besides, we will all know where we are and who wants to answer their questions. After all, we dont jump into their threads

Anyway. Whatever is said, let no-one distract from what has happened to the poor elderly gentleman. There is no justification for the before mentioned bad pointers and evil doings either and we are talking about scammers and dishonest people here who seek personal gain. No soft spoken stories will compensate or jusify.
Yes there are good ladies out there but there are scammers too.

Yes there is another thread but since her comment relates to the topic it just made more since. I do agree there is no excuse for a scammer they should be put in a file on this site so all can see who they are as they often use other names and sites to enhance there scam.

Just to clarify an earlier comment made by a woman. She says: """ The situation with sending money for tickets is very unpleasant and not clear, because with the online booking Airlines return money for tickets at cancellation."""


Some news for that thoughtful woman who seems to advocate men sending money for airline tickets.
Firstly, the situation is perfectly transparent so please be under illusion. Most men realize that Russian/Belorussian/Ukrainian woman are not so financially well-off and most do not need reminding about "" financial crisis, cost of visas etc etc, we get enough of this sort of tallk from the scammers. Did you know the financial crisis is worldwide - not just in Russia
Secondly, yes indeed, the scenario of scammers is unpleasant, but unfortunately a stark reality for many men. Thirdly, the advice given by all men on this thread is perfectly clear and against what you say; we say - never send money! And any comments that coerce or intimidate men into sending money for airline tickets or anything else, in any shape or form, should not have a place on this forum.

And finally - not all cancelled airline tickets are reimbursed . The truth is that some airlines might (if your ticket is insured),others will require a genuine medical doctors note, whilst other will never give a refund.

Exactly right cymru most tickets or not refundable most you can only change when you fly and then there is a charge to do that about 247$ the last time I had to change a flight. Like I said if these women want to go on a vacation they can come up with the money.

They seem to think all we have to do is click our heels together three times and off to Ukraine or Russia we go.

Also reading of the women's forum should be mandatory reading for every man on this site.
I was writing to a woman and stumbled across a few of her post on their forum then I found a few more that she had written lets just say it was an eye opening experience to the way she really thinks and some of the things she has done in the past.

Yes, some of their posts are not just eye-openers but jaw-droppers too; roflmao. The good news though, is that the rejects and scam supporters on LoversPlanet are a minority. And, by reading their posts we can weed out the twisted delinquents that spit toxic venom and even forward their details and photos to scam sites. Let 'em dig their own graves

It's life, man!

If you want a nice lady, you have to spend money on her: buy her flowers, diamonds, tickets, etc.
But, somebody else can give her better flowers, diamonds, and tickets.
You can lose, and have to move on and try again.

It can happen with a girl next door; and she won't give you a refund either.

Not sure if this moral is entirely correct, as love is widely regarded to involve feelings and compatibility, as opposed to wallet size and diamonds. But yes, there are men that exploit and who need to buy love - each to their own.
As for happening "next door", sure, but her door would be easier to break down

PS. Hope you have plenty of diamond rings in your back pocket, as you'll have an army of admiring supporters now;roflmo.

I don't see any feelings.
He clicked on the button "Buy" and expected the bride to appear at his door.

If you have real feelings, it's a pleasure to give diamonds to a girl. And you don't expect them back if it doesn't work.

If you're suspicious, do this:
* Some flower delivery services make photos when they deliver a bouquet to a girl. This shows that she's real.
* Find more information about her.
* Go there yourself, but make sure that she won't tell you at the airport, "I don't like you!" - don't go after supermodels.

Also, diamonds are cheap. A small diamond stud starts from $24. Don't be a guy who spends thousands on a plane ticket and zero on a gift.

Who knows what button was pressed - maybe the "Try" and not the "Buy" button! Nevertheless, he got scammed
for believing in what he thought was real. He doesn't mention anything about a "bride", like you say - only that they were going to meet for two weeks and he supplied the tickets.
He is anecdotal in his story so maybe he even sent diamonds too, but one thing is crystal clear here is that
people should not send money. There's a huge difference between a airline tickets and your $24 diamond or flower scenario. The talk is about serious losses, not about bling or petals.


Back to basics. Plain and simple. A decent Russian woman would NEVER ask for money or complain about her financial situation. The "nice ones" wont anyway.
If you get a letter where she complains about her low paid occupation, sick relative or broken computer, then be careful.
It’s the first step of the money whine. Russian girls are mainly proud and never outright ask for money. READ!!!!
Any girl talking about tickets, visas, travel agencies or marriage should be avoided like the plague.

The best advise by far is to visit them. Whether its Ukriane, Belarus, Russia, or wherever, the trips are easy - though trips
into central Russia and eastern Russia could require connecting flights either from from Sheremetyevo 1 or from other countries like Turkey or Germany. Depends where one is flying from.

There is a free shuttle from Sheremetyevo II to Sheremetyevo I. I don't see any problem. Just buy a ticket from your country to the final city, for example, from Aeroflot. Aeroflot will take care of your connection.

What would you say if his story were like this:
She arrived at the airport, we spent a few days, she said, "No!", left, and stopped replying.
I lost my money.