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AND I could ask.. when was the last time YOU received $1500.00 underwear as a gift?

The real question is in the devotion.. for this man "pretty panties" is how he liked to dress his women, this made them both happy.. so be it.

Of course, this is nice, BUT would it not be better to give her a home, food, car, insurance, love and respect? Perhaps this is because I am older.. maybe if i am 20, with no responsibilities and people who depend on my good judgment, That I would see the value in spending this money on lace.

But you see I am older, I see the value in providing the woman with security, I am experienced enough to know to plan for the future and save because we never know what arrives... and again I say, it does not mean I would not give a nice gift that the woman would be proud of.... me, I would use the money to fly and see my beloved AND take a nice gift!

But I DO agree with you.. when the lady is happy, the home is happy. No doubt about that!! AND if one gift lasts a year, in the end.. it could be a bargain!

hmmmm...can't even imagine I shall ask about
You are right I am a little bit experienced lady all ready in order to think that $1500.00 underwear can make my life to be extremly bright
I prefer to think that my beauty is so great that doesn't need so expencive underwear

jscottv-I hope you are right! Being generous with you praise and love, that is easy with the right lady.

Olga, your humor is wonderful. I laughed out loud. And I think you answered my question with out realizing it.

If a man gives a woman $1500 underwear, it was his money and it was for his benefit. If she wanted an education, he was foolish. If a wife squanders the families money on her selfish wants without regard to what is best for the family, she is a fool.

It is uncommon for a man in America to control all of the money, at least in my generation. I would regard what mentioned as a womans 'needs'. Every woman needs to feel beautiful, every man wants a happy and beautiful wife. That is to be taken for granted. You must realize many American women see no problem in squandering every cent, with no regard for the family. On American dating sites, the word gererous means 'My beauty deserves a man who will pay the bills and worship me to his last dollar. On the day he runs out of money I will find another.' So am I correct that the word does not translate well?

And finally, I found the story sad because no one should take advantage of another from a position of power. As a brother, son, and father, I find it upsetting when men of poor character take advantage.

Recent exchange with a LoversPlanet lady...

Dear Xxxxx, Three of Lyuda’s friends have met LoversPlanet men who were extreme about religion. I advised them that any extreme can be bad, even extreme wealth! But it would be nice to try:). Extreme drinking, extreme politics, extreme religion, even extreme beauty can lead to problems. LoversPlanet women meet men who are attracted by their photos. If that is their only reason, an honest relationship will be impossible.
I am looking for a man I can refer to you! The man I envision is 50 years old. He owns a profitable business or is close to retirement from a successful job. He does not have to be rich, but neither can he be poor. It takes money to bring a fiancee from Russia. He was married but never happy. Or maybe his wife died. He has 1 or 2 grown children. He likes to travel. His romantic dream is to meet a wonderful woman and treat her like a queen. He wants to be married for the rest of his life. He wants to meet your son and build a happy relationship with both you and Alex. He is not an extremist about religion or politics. In my mind he lives in a warm American state (my bias:), but you could be happy with this sort of man in many other countries.
Lyuda and I have a wonderful and happy life. Her mother will arrive her from Russia (she will visit for 6 months) in 2 weeks. So why do I enjoy having you as a pen pal? My romantic nature will never end. I like man-woman relationships in books and movies. LoversPlanet gives me a way to look into the souls of beautiful and interesting women and dream about their success. I have written to about 10 ladies. They always thank me for offering to help. If their English is bad they sometimes think I am looking for a wife (even though my profile clearly explains that I am married to a wonderful lady I met on LoversPlanet).
You are my favorite pen pal. In my romantic way, I want to be a source of interest and help. But if my emails confuse you or take too much of your time I will stop writing. I cannot send financial support and I know you did not ask. I’m just being honest.
Your friend in Florida -- Bob

>> Sun, Mar 21, 2010 7:17 AM EDT Xxxxx wrote:

Good morning, Bob!
Thank you for your letter! How are you?
How was the holiday? Ludmilla like?
I was not in other countries. We once rested with his son in Bulgaria two years ago. My dream of visiting Italy When I write letters, I try to correctly build the proposal. Construction of the proposals in the Russian language differs from English Bob, I believe in God in the soul. But my faith is not a fanatic. My faith is deep inside. Man who came to visit me was a believer and his god was the first place. I find it difficult to understand. Therefore, I now also ask American men about their attitudes toward religion. -- Xxxxx

I have written to several of my wife's friends and to 10 LoversPlanet ladies that looked interesting to me. I believe 100% have thanked me for my initial note of encouragement. Those who sent messages all seem sincere about wanting to find a good relationship. Very sincere! Some have had bad experiences. Some are impatient. About half (in my small sample) have trouble with English translations. The life of a divorced mother or young single woman is not easy (this would be more or less true in any country). I feel such compassion toward these hopeful ladies. I also feel compassion toward sincere men who are seeking lifetime relations through this site. I wish you luck and I assure you there are good ladies out there.
We are not all attracted to the same kind of woman, but I have had no trouble spotting ladies who are the type I was looking for. I wanted a woman with a child because I did not want to father a new baby. I wanted an honest, clean cut type woman who would not be extreme or agumentative. There are certain physical features I like. The first thing I do when I see a profile is look at the photos. Then I read the height, city and number of children. Then the profile statement. Sometimes I Google the city to see where it is in Russia or Ukraine. My knowledge of both countries is pretty good. I read the answer she entered by faith and occupation. Then I look carefully at the pictures for context. What are her surroundings telling me? What does she like? Can I learn anything from her facial expressions? I would probably not write to a lady who provided only one photo. I hope you wife shoppers find this helpful. I feel I know someone pretty well from that initial overview. At least I know what to say in my first email.

Yes, understandable questions because of your experience at other sites probably and because you are new here at LP.

I can say without hesitation that LP will boot a suspected lady off this site in a moment if they have a complaint. If there are ladies here that are "seeded", I have never come across one.

In fact, you would think that a seeded lady would be speaking to the men and encouraging them to join. when in fact, we have had several misunderstandings with the ladies here in the forum that as resulted in several instances of harsh words,. This is NOT the kind of conversation someone would have if they were wanting to draw you in.

NEVER has it been my experience in my time here, that I have been encouraged by ladies to spend money on the site. I have made "friends" and I have spoken directly with several ladies. Most conversations were "off-site" on "Skype" after we began emailing here at LP.. ( although the video system here works perfectly well for members). Never was site membership ever discussed.

No one has EVER asked for money and remained a member on the site if it is known. All the ladies I have communicated with except one who was booted off that ever did do something like this. Almost every lady I have spoken with, were at home, using their personal computer, I could see them, perhaps see their children and have had "normal" discussions.

In nearly all cases, they are typical ladies hoping to find a friend or perhaps even a new life... BE NICE TO THEM, they are normal people..

The age difference conversation has been well discussed here, read through the forum, you will find it. Most older men here seem to want a lady 10 years younger than themselves.... that seems to be mostly the norm. The younger men are as you would expect. I have never seen a 45 year old looking for a teenager. But, I am sure there are "Peds" here... they are everywhere.

Good Luck,,

I am not in the least bit offended. I am relating to you my direct experience with the site. You asked for information and I offered it freely. You can use that information as you wish (or not).

I DO wonder about your need to state your qualifications concerning your opinion about a site in which you have little direct experience?

and

Why do you continue to bother visiting sites such as this if you have such a low opinion of the people who enjoy communicating with others in this manner?

This I DO know... my experience does not depend on your opinion. From my perspective, my direct positive experiences with the people here far out-weigh your negative "other-site" experiences and insights.

Your decision to participate here is totally up to you, it really makes no difference to me whether or not you post or join. I would however suggest that a positive outlook just might produce positive results, and a willingness to try will take you further than being unwilling to risk.

Do as thou will

fictitious stats from an infantile ego...

Quote ...I also think that people have their standards set too high.
I have noticed that most of the men on this site have an age range for their prospective mate of 18 to whatever. These are guys who are all mostly in there late 30's, 40's and 50's.


Why would you be looking at a mans profile????
Maybe you're on the wrong site.

actually, I was kind of wondering the same thing... but no matter,

I know my experience here for the most part has been very good. I have made friends here. The girls have been honest. Nothings perfect, there have been some misunderstandings. But, I think this site has lived up to my hopes and would encourage anyone interested in meeting Eastern European ladies to give it a try,

Hopefully, your experience has also been a good one.

Ditto. I think this site is the fairest out here. I have only had one or two ladies that didn't answer after we hot listed each other. It happened on Match.com also, so I just chalk it up to cold feet or a mistake. I have made friends here, which is all I really expect. I doubt I could fall in love with a picture and a profile. There is so much you learn when you meet someone that can't be learned any other way IMO. I the the key is to find someone you would want to spend a week with and go from there.

On the lady's side of the forum girls are curious to know what do you mean when you write: "I search the woman for friendship"
seems as women take these words like: the man is going to come sometimes to spend vacation together to contact.
seems as men take these words like: to write and write, to chart a lot - what for?
What is the real meaning of this phrase for you? What do you mean friendship at the virtual world?
Is there any reason to start speak with the man if he declare only friendship? How long?

Olga!.. How are you?

What I think it means is the man is not sure what he wants.. or he is interested in learning about the ladies, their language and their countries to see if it is something they find attractive.

In other words, they are looking around and considering and do not want to mislead a lady into thinking they want marriage very soon. Perhaps the ladies should be friends first without expectations. Maybe everyone would learn to understand each other better that way!

Scott

What I believe that means is a certain hesitation with the unknown. It takes a certain courage to try to find a mate here. It took me a week or two to get comfortable. I would almost bet the man who says this in the beginning is probably a good man who doesn't want to give a lady a false impression before he has decided to commit to the process.

My advice to the ladies, if a man is new to the site, please be patient with his motives. If his intentions are still just friendship after a month, concentrate on men who are further along and want a wife.