What do Russian women want from western men?

Many years ago I took an international job and I worked and lived in Russia for 1 year, in a city called Vladivostok. During just the first week, I was shocked at the women, not only were they very beautiful and very feminine, but also hard working and very resilient. Of course it was no trouble finding dates with many beautiful women, then I met one that caught my heart. We saw each other for 6 months, then we were married. Our life there in Russia was great, working an international job as a government contractor, I was paid very well. At that time the U.S. dollar went a long way in Russia (I don't know about now) and my wife made the mistake of assuming I was a wealthy man (I was in Russia). When we returned to the USA, she discovered I was middle class, it came as a big shock to her and of course she was disappointed. Two years later, she received her green card, then she left me for a wealthy man, but she left a lasting impression on me. Those 3 years we were together, were the happiest days of my life. I have never had anyone to take care of me as the way she did (I was married before). She was very traditional, she believed the wife should stay at home and take care of the family, believe me, I could write pages of how well she took care of me and our home. After what happened to me, I wondered about other marriages between American men and women from CIS countries. I did my own research and talked to men that married these women, and it was about equal. About half ended in divorce and about half stayed married. After dating American women again, I have decided to find another wife from Russia or Ukraine, and I have been to Ukraine 3 times this past year. After talking to many women in Ukraine, I believe some of the things we hear are true, they all say most of the single men there are drunk and lazy. They say not all of their men are bad, but the good ones of course are already married. Another thing I thought was interesting, was these women believe American men treat their women very good. Honestly, I believe these women are just looking for the best life they can find.
I have found these women are very smart, they are very well planned, and very cunning. They are all like we would say "street smart". I believe most of the women on these sites are just trying to see what all their options are. For example, should she stay in her country? should she find a foreign husband? if so, then what type of man? as I wrote, they plan out everything very well.
I have been involved with a lady from ukraine and I have visited her twice and I will visit her a few more times before I bring her here. If you are looking for a traditional lady, Russia and Ukraine is a great place to look, but try to get to know the lady, and just be careful.
I think I should add, not all of these women are like my ex-wife. I believe most of them are good women, they just don't have a great choice of men in their country. There are some that do care more about money, and those are the ones you have to watch out for.

I'm sorry to hear that money and wealth was the reason this lady came to you and then left you as well. i hope this is not true of all the ladies who seek life in the west.

very interesting story Vin! thanks for shareing....

from my experience, it is normal.

I certainly hope its not the norm, although I am not too concerned about it. I feel that if you true to your reasons for searching here and pay attention to the details of what the woman is telling you, then you will be able to make an informed decision. Try to be honest as possible in your profile so there can be no misconceptions about what life may be like living in your city. For me, I live in a small town and make certain that any lady I correspond with knows this up front.

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Great post and very interesting story, it is a pity your ex-wife's priority in life is wealthy...

I believe not all the women from Eastern are in that sintony. But yes they want to be treated like a lady, with all the attention y respect they deserve. And of course like any woman in the world they wish to have a good life, which is not necessarily a rich life.

An excellent post Vincent41 !!! Sad experiences for you no doubt and lamentable to read too.
When you mentioned the ‘Green Card’ though, it somehow sounds like the longest scam I’ve ever heard of; it was obviously money orientated and not love from her side.

From my own eastern experiences, I echo much of what you write. Money is a magnet for some, which sadly becomes addictive.


And, just to reiterate, if in doubt about what money means to some of these women take a peek-a-boo at their website. Western Union, European Banks, MoneyGramme all get more than a fair mention.
Best do some homework and then you’ll ‘get a picture’ to separate the scroungers and invertebrates from the authentic and unpretentious. Nuff said.

because the advertiseing is there gives no factual proof there money hungry, you can only determine that through your actuall contact with the ladys. I seriously doubt they have links in there personal profiles that accept western union on this site, or are you refering to another?

This is a great concern I have. Specifically, that the Russian women DO NOT understand our economy and can be easily mislead by the numbers. This not being intentional on our part but more of a cultural difference. Generally speaking, in 2005 numbers that statistics are:

According to the US Census Bureau in 2005:
The median household income was roughly $46,000. (everyones salary combined)
The median annual earnings for someone in the labor force age 25 or older was $32,000.
The median household per capita income, the amount of money households are able to allocate to each of their members, was $24,000.

This means of course that most men here are part of the top % wage earners for our country. AND in the ladies minds it means that we have $5000.00 (plus) per month to live on. More than $1000.00 per week to shop with!!!

They don't understand about transportation costs, insurance costs (health, home, car) home mortgages, fuel and food costs, retirement savings, utilities, clothes, school for children...etc, etc. SO... that when you finally get to what we have left over after expenses, we live generally at a level they live at now. Maybe a little better, but we ARE NOT rich.

They DO NOT understand that the majority of American families have TWO wage earners. That the husband AND wife work. AND that simply being in a position to be a stay at home Mom or housewife is a rare and advantageous life these days. That most families who choose this life style must sacrifice to afford to live in this manner.

I am sure there are some guys around who make more.... but statistically speaking, that is perhaps 2 in 100. (2%). Which means of course that the Russian lady Must speak with 100 men to find 2 men who can do this AND... THEY must be interested in HER. She also must compete with every other "American girl" who is looking to bed down this same guy, and by the way girls.... they won't care if he is married or not.

This is reality... so the question really does become is she looking for a kind and generous man who genuinely seeks a loving family life OR is she looking for someone to carry her away and fulfill her monetary dreams? AND the question for us becomes.. do we really want a wife who thinks this way?????

I suggest you lay down the facts about your income and lifestyle BEFORE you fly, tell her you must save for the trip, you are not rich. Make her wait...If she is still interested in you after knowing what she will find here, then she MAY be worth visiting.

Even of you are rich.. I would NEVER tell them this, unless of course you yourself enjoy being a target and have an ego that needs stroking. in which case "Caveat emptor".

I did not mention links or URLS on profiles on personal profiles. My point was concerning the general talk about the before mentioned words within discussion groups; and to view the personal profiles of those that do constantly talk about money. I aslo used the word some I hope this is now clear.

cymru..........

Of coarse you didn't mention the links, and your point was connecting banks, western union, monygrams to some of the ladys, thanks for the clearer view.........

jscottv, I have to agree with what you wrote. It's not that most of these women are after money (although a few are) they just have the wrong idea about American life. A very good expample is a lady from Ukraine recently told me the average salary in Ukraine equals about 280. U.S. Dollars a month, so naturally they get the wrong idea. Also they don't know that most homes here are two income famlies, most of these women want to be house wives, that's great if you can afford it, but a big surprise to her if you can't. For any man that looks for someone in these countries, they just need to make sure the lady understands the difference in our economies. Honestly, with my experience with these women, I can write many good things about them, and only a few bad things. Any trouble someone may have mostly comes from miscommunication, there is a difference between these women and American women and I love that difference.

Vincent, what are the most remarkable differences you have found in Ukranian women in relation with american?

Hi Chaps,
Have been to Russia/Ukr many times and almost every time with good experiences. 4get all that James Bond and CIA crap that we were raised on ! They are lovely friendly people with substantial more intelligence than most of us and are generally one step ahead always..so be sincere but cautious
David

David...!

A new voice, thanks for writing in.. and please add your experiences and information.