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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:33 am 
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"Former!" I'm going to refrain from posting til I have my coffee.


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:52 am 
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Yes, Skype is absolutely necessary, though it offers no guarantees. My girl has a friend who had a man come from Europe to meet her in Tashkent. He took one look, said, "Okay, bye," and turned right back around to get on a return flight. Ouch. And they had communicated for quite some time, on Skype and so forth. So, I would advocate for truthful rather than high quality photos. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:58 pm 
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High quality doesn't mean professional, photoshopped photos. They must show details of your face and your body, your eyes, your wrinkles, your belly, etc.
Small, blurry photos may hide defects, but later you'll have to show yourself in flesh anyway.

I had a similar situation.

I don't tolerate cigarette smoke, and I always skip ladies who write in profiles that they smoke.
I liked a lady, but didn't spend much time communicating because she suddenly decided to go to another city when I wanted to visit her.
Then I prolongated my stay and was able to meet her at a restaurant.

The first minute I saw her, I knew something was wrong. Her teeth were extremely yellow.
Then she started to smoke one cigarette after another and drink. That was it.
Yes, I checked her profile again: "Smoking - No".


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
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The only thing she can think of is that perhaps the girl was a little shorter than the guy expected.

I hope that wasn't an expensive trip for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
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I didn't expect much from that trip. Girls seemed all in love with me, but began to disappear for different reasons when I told them that I wanted to travel to see them.

I've changed my attitude. I communicate by all means with a single lady, I use Skype, SMS, e-mail, paper mail (it takes two weeks, but I consider it more romantic). I don't want to spend my time on multiple women. If I travel, I must be in virtual love with HER.

Now I must find more ways to attract her. I found this book as an eye opener. It has so many great advice.
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tksmith wrote:
The only thing she can think of is that perhaps the girl was a little shorter than the guy expected.

Sometimes, people add an inch to their height or shave a few pounds from their weight. It's kind of acceptable.

But the main problem is when people lie about major things. They upload 20-year-old photos, lie about bad habits, illnesses, etc.
My friend married a woman. After the marriage, she told him about her 3 kids.


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[quote="barabaika My friend married a woman. After the marriage, she told him about her 3 kids.[/quote]

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OY !!!!!!! She must be a real actress ... and what he did ? Divorced ?


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Tinna wrote:
[quote="barabaika My friend married a woman. After the marriage, she told him about her 3 kids.


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OY !!!!!!! She must be a real actress ... and what he did ? Divorced ?[/quote]
No, he did strange things.

His wife was from the Philippines; so, he moved there with her. He couldn't find any job in the Philippines and returned to the USA.
I saw him cooking for himself, and she microwaved frozen food for herself and kids. I've never seen anything romantic between them.

Recently, he called me to check his computer and said that he didn't know where his wife was. I asked if she's got a green card. He remembered that she had received her papers a few weeks before.


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
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barabaika wrote:
No, he did strange things.
His wife was from the Philippines; ..


Ah, I see.. He got into the trap... She was not an actress, it is enough she is from Philippines. I personally (and my Russian colleages) find it is complicated to "read" faces, gestures of people from Japan, China and Korea. I can add there Philippines, Vietnam and so on..
My experience at work with them says I have troubles recognaizing what kind of real emotions are at that or this moment. Misunderstanding is from their side too. So if there is intention to hide something it is not so complicated.
poor guy.. but still - he has all chances to be happy again..with another woman :)


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My name is John. I live in Southern California. The posts that it takes thousands of dollars to find someone real and worth marrying is a long and enduring process. Those posts are true. Since February, 2007, I have been to Russia 7 times and Ukraine 3 times. I would estimate my total cost for these trips to be somewhere around $40,000. I went to meet six different women I met them on different websites. It takes many, many hours to comb through thousands of profiles to find women you would actually want to meet. Steer clear of the really beautiful ones. They are often gold diggers and no matter what they say, it may very well be insincere. Some of the women on these sites are prostitutes. They are attractive, will want you to come and visit, will allow you to buy them expensive gifts, but have no intentions of leaving their country for you.
Then there are those women who just want out. They want out of Russia, out of Ukraine. They really don't care for you but they'll come here to marry you. After a few years, the marriage won't work out. Why not? They never loved you. It may all sound discouraging, but don't let it be. Just be prepared to spend a lot of time, money, and hope for the best. Some good luck wouldn't hurt either. Stay away from women who don't speak English. Just think how hard that would be to teach a woman English! It would take several years for her to learn English, that's assuming her heart is really with you. Remember that these are countries where the social fabric of these countries is unraveling. Religion almost different exist for almost a century. Corruption is rampant. As one woman said to me, "This is Russia. Everybody lies." Anolther womantold me, "Russia is a country without morals." Look for a Ukrianian woman. Ukraine ranks higher on the international ethics index than do Russians. I think I could write a book on my experiences in the former Soviet Union. Take all this advice seriously. Very seriously. I have been to these countries 10 times. I have met hundreds of women on the internet. I have had thousands write to me. Be selective. Take your time. If a woman is really interested in you, you'll know it. She'll reply promptly to your emails. She'll send pictures. She'll ask you questions about you, about your life. I would write more, but it is late at night. I am the voice of experience, of real ex


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 Post subject: to Scorpio 1951
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Do you really think yoiu are an expert in the former USSR? You have been to Russia and Ukraine many times and couldn't find any really nice woman. Isn't it strange?! You wrte about corruption, about the absence of morals in Russia, ets. What is your aim I wonder? To eliminate corruption in Russia or to find a wide? If you think all Russians are immoral why are you still looking for a russian woman?
Besides, dear EXPERT, Russia is really great in territory and in morality and hardly you have right to judge my country.
It is reality that we have some diiculties: social and economical/ But it doesn't meam we are immoral/ Why do you trust those women who told you"This is Russia. Everybody lies." , "Russia is a country without morals."
I want to ask you if people in LA, NE.Washington, Austin,in the the outskirts are the same?! Russia has a vast territory and and here live millions of people of different cultures, family traditions, morals.
As for me I am not neither from Moscow , nor from St.Petersburg. I am from the Caucasus. Our people are very hospitable, kind and with high moral values.
Before you call yourself an expert you have to live in the country for a wile. And may be after that you can obtain the right to call yourself an EXPERT.
I can call an EXPERT a very nice american citizen Joe Mestas, who is married to a Ruusian woman( from the Caucasus)/ He even used to live here and he can tell you what kind of people do live here. You can You can google his name/
I think in your case the problem is in YOU, not in Russians.
Sorry if I am too rude, but...


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caucasian wrote:
Do you really think yoiu are an expert in the former USSR? You have been to Russia and Ukraine many times and couldn't find any really nice woman. Isn't it strange?! You wrte about corruption, about the absence of morals in Russia, ets. What is your aim I wonder? To eliminate corruption in Russia or to find a wide? If you think all Russians are immoral why are you still looking for a russian woman?
Besides, dear EXPERT, Russia is really great in territory and in morality and hardly you have right to judge my country.
It is reality that we have some diiculties: social and economical/ But it doesn't meam we are immoral/ Why do you trust those women who told you"This is Russia. Everybody lies." , "Russia is a country without morals."
I want to ask you if people in LA, NE.Washington, Austin,in the the outskirts are the same?! Russia has a vast territory and and here live millions of people of different cultures, family traditions, morals.
As for me I am not neither from Moscow , nor from St.Petersburg. I am from the Caucasus. Our people are very hospitable, kind.



Caucasian, you are right, i have travelled to Russia 4 times and Ukraine 5, every town i went to people were very nice, and at the Airport all very helpfull. never saw one flight. i did get pick pocket in St Petersburg but i feel it was more my fault for not being more carefull. compare that to New York, I was robbed and had my car stolen, saw fights every night, both from stupid drunks and gang bangers. go to south boston if you dont beleve me. or L.A. where my house was broken into 2 times, 2 different cars stolen, my freind robbed and beaten, and the hollywood streets filled with pimps, drugies and gangs. or Chicago, where there are a number of places even the cop's dont go. (parts of the south side for example) as far as coruption, all you need to do is find a cop on the south side of Chicago, he will let you do anything as long as you pay him. dont get me wrong, I love America and would never leave it. but there are many places that are no different. people are the same on every spot on the planet. some good some bad.
As for me, I love the look of the women from Russia/Ukraine, the culture is more to my taste, and if you can really capture the hart of a good russian/ukrainian woman, there is no American woman that cane come close.


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 Post subject: Re: Queston from a newbie
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Nice words!
Great words from a man who had such a sad story with ex Russian wife.
I wish other men argued the same way and didn't generalize ALL Russian women.


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