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 Post subject: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:23 pm 
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1. The photo! Look´s like model, pop star nice outfit and so on, think for your self she need to search for man.
2. Look if she has read your profile, if possible. Most scammers brows and send notes and wink´s they don´t have time to read profiles.
3.When you replay ask some question about there city or other information they have in there profile, they don´t read all letter´s so you don´t get any answerer to your question.
4.You can ask for there name and address and that you get but not genuine, you can even get a copy of there passport but it´s fake to.
5.Many say something about there work like restaurant, coffebar, hospital, vetclinik, office and so, ask for name there work.

So what to do? Talk by Skype or messenger whit voice and remember small thing´s from your early conversation and ask about it in a clever way, you know it easy to lie but remember is the tricky part and that goes for you to, don´t start a conversation and try to impress by tell thing´s that not all true if you don´t remember later you get :?
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 Post subject: Re: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:13 am 
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yes ...

quite a good description !

keep in mind that what would smell fishy in your hometown as most chances to be rotten in any part of world ...!

as a general fact , eastern women are quite proud , so the ones stating their hardship straight away , you can drop ...

money as well is a "sensible" matter , after working a few years in russia , i came to the conclusion that locals able to speak freely with anyone about money-matters (in terms of their problem about it) anytime are the ones who expect "a free ride" from you ...

keep in mind as well a saying = " If you have a doubt , then there is NO doubt"
it is a fact of life !!
even the most perfect woman with the purest intentions would be wasted if you start to feel unease about her ...

so keep your mind open , don't be afraid to ask MANY questions , NEVER rely on "may be it is custom , here" , and last but absolutely NOT least KEEP your power with you ...

the power of saying NO when you do not like something !!! if she likes you , she will try to understand and/or talk about ...

if she is around for profit = she won't know you anymore after the second letter of the word NO !


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 Post subject: Re: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:36 am 
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One question that I have is can these women be on more than one web site ? Or do I need to check to see if the multiply sites showing the same woman is owned/operated by the same parent company?

Have read the scam blogs/sites and understand that you can chase down the IP address, but also have started to use the Google Earth to verify their addresses that they give me. Also, tried the "passage" trick with Google but do not find that very consistent. Any tips there from you guys???? I will use what ever means to verify if she is "for real" or not. Learned the hard way and almost got burned bad by a scammer that contacted me via match dot com and then switched email addresses to a gmail address. match would not even assist me after I got suspicious.
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 Post subject: Re: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:44 am 
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ted ...

usually if a woman is on more than 2 or 3 sites , run away as far and as fast as possible ...

not a question of being a scammer ot not , BUT if she is doing that willingly :

* chances are she is going to be very picky ... with a big risk that she will be so picky that she will actually never really make a choice !!! (in my opinion : only the first step to become a scammer or a professional dater : if many men offer her gifts = she might become a scammer ; if many men please her with travel and exciting parties = she might become a PD )

* chances are she is dreaming , but with her eyes open ! she knows her "value" (beauty , youth , etc...) she tries to get the "best deal in town"

* chances are : it is a stolen ID ... , so easy to have a few cuties doing a photo shooting for any sort of contest !!! after you can use pics quite easily ... until they are too hot !

if it is against her own will :

agency trying to maximize the potential earning , before the face is too much known , therefor worthless in terms of revenues !!

i believe the best remain the IP-Trace ... that is one of the reason , often scammer switch to Gmail or the like as soon as possible , it make things a bit harder to track down ...

in the case of a firm "publishing" profiles on a myriad of parent-sites = do you really want to cut the wood which is going to make the stick used to beat you , yourself ???
mega-meat-sites with tens of thousands of profiles are only that = meat-market !

what is the need to have thousands where ONLY one could be enough ?

so , cut the crap about marketing advantages of having thousands to choose from , or possibility to meet few hundreds in a week ...
after the sixth one , you won't remember names , anyway !!!


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 Post subject: Re: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:10 am 
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hey Guys

Very good comments . learn a lot from them .
I'm new comer here have no any experience by looking for girls on website before :-)
but my advice to avoid gold-digger is never ever talking about money issue before u r 100% sure she is not scammer....
I been regiest on below website
meetsexyrussianwomen dot com
where almost is all gold-digger there . I received mail every day . girls want to know more about me like me . wanna developing more deep relationship with me..something like that . and then mail few times eachother . she'll say she dont speak english . she spent money to translation company for write the mail .and she's account is empty right now ...some shit like this ...
keep ur eyes open....
some guys right . why 20Y.O gorgeous young girl date with u? what u got but money?

nice to meet u guys . good luck u all....


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 Post subject: Re: Some easy way separate scammers
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:53 pm 
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I have been scammed two times in very different ways.
- Luckily I have not paid any money. - But how about the feelings you have for this "girl" who you think you are corresponding with? How do you get over your feelings for the image you have built in your mind of your life partner?
I still miss "my" "girls"... (even if I don't like to be cheated)

Number 1 girl started corresponding with me at a big dating site, but asked me to write via Hotmail. - I was confused. Why DIDN'T it present itself as a problem, that she was 31 and I am the same age as her mum and dad???

Little by little I grew more and more suspicous of the letters!
And here is an important clue:
These very long letters were/are PREWRITTEN. You can find the same letters on the Internet. The letter which you think is PERSONAL, is just a copied letter.
Another thing to understand: If you ask some questions, you very seldom get an answer. If you are "lucky" there may be some personal remarks at the beginning or at the end of her mails..

Number 2 girl asked me to chat with her at Internet Messenger. - She sent me some very interesting photos. These photos (I found out later) were stolen from a softcore porn site (Even if the photos I received were not pornographic).
Number 2 claimed to be studying as a fashion designer in Ghana. Daughter of an African chief who had been killed in a car accident etc. etc.

I took me quite long time to realise that she was scamming me! First when she seemed to have forgotten, that she had already sent me some photos, the truth came into my mind...

But the sad thing is this: I still miss these "girls" and the letters and chatting. - When do you grow old enough to overcome this "problem"? ;)


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