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 Post subject: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:33 pm 
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I have a question and I hope someone has traveled to this location. I'm planning a tripto Samara Russia. I have flight information and working on Visa. However before I get Visa I must get a letter. Now this is my question I was told by a Russian friend here to get an appartment for my stay and I even have contact now with a person who will rent me an appartment while on my visit. But when I read the application for visa it say I can arrange letter from most hotels?What if you are not staying in a hotel and not booking through a tour? can anyone tell me how to get this letter?

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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:55 pm 
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MIke,

Can't the girl send you an invitation for VISA support? In any case, I found this site that will do this for you for $30.00. Anyone ever do this?.. any better suggestions?
http://www.waytorussia.net/Travel/VisaSupport.html


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:28 pm 
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Most people would do a simple google search, follow the first link ("http://www.russianvisa.org/"), and read the FAQ.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:46 pm 
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rogerm222

That is the exact same information as the link I gave. The cost is also the same, $30.00. That must be the way to go unless someone has different information.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:45 am 
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I'm happy thats what most people would do but I was asking for ideas of what some people have done. Not what some web site suggest. Not alot of first hand experiance here I think. well except those who have traveled to the Ukraine.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:36 pm 
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sorry Mike can't help, I travel now on a multiple entry buisness visa, many years ago I traveled on a Transit Visa which allowed entering another country via/russia...there was a time frame upon entering and leaving, honestly can't remember all the details...I have been told invitation to Ukraine is not required, but personally I don't know...


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:39 pm 
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For Ukraine you don't need make visa


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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Yes I have traveled to the Ukraine and it was very easy but there are so many web sites and such about travel to Russian that it leaves me a bit confussed. Thank you eveyone for your insights.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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Ya know Mike, there IS a facebook page where people discuss... the way to Russia, you may be able to pick up more info there.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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Thanks Scotty


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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I have used one of those visa support websites. It is the most convenient. I've stayed at hotels, and it takes them several days to get you the letter. You can have your girl get you the letter, but it requires her to go to some local government office (OVIR), and then mail you the letter. OR, as I have done on multiple times, you simply pay one of these agencies to send you a visa support letter within 24 hours for like $20-30.

It is basically a scam run by Rus government, if you want my humble opinion. If you go to the Russian embassy website, they actually have links to couple of these agencies that send you visa support letters. These agencies must be registered with the government. What is funny is that the visa support letter will essentially state that you will be staying at some fake hotel for the length of your visa. It sounds suspicious, but it's how it works. I have done it about 6 times now.

Also, important to remember... upon arrival, you have 3 days to "register" your visa. If you are not staying at hotel, then you must go to the local OVIR. usually, it's straightforward process of paying some fee and getting a stamp. It is a pain, but if you do not register, you will open yourself up to police bribing if police ever notice that you have not registered.

Hope my info was helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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Very Helpful.... thank you


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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maur wrote:
If you are not staying at hotel, then you must go to the local OVIR.

Things change. That is no longer the correct process. Your apartment landlord must do it now.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
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If you want to read something that will make you think, read the US State departments recommendations about travel to Russia: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1006.html

You sure you don't want to meet the girl in Ukraine MIke? By the time you pay for the VISA ( $250.00 fast process), plus $30.00 for the letter.. you could fly her over. Aeroflot would fly her for $250.00 ! (St. Pete to Kiev)

Here is what the Russia embassy says:

4. A standard tourist confirmation from a hosting authorized Russian travel agency or a hotel, registered with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a voucher from your hotel or travel agency in Russia

found here: http://www.russianembassy.org/CONSULAT/TOUR-VIS.HTM


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 Post subject: Re: Question on travel in Russia
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:15 am 
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Mike, sorry I can't help you with this question - we don't need in Ukraine to make letters for visa.
I asked girls what do they know about - You see to make you a letter really requires from the girl to do great efforts such as to go to some local government office (OVIR) and spend there a lot of time (if she works this is a problem).... hmmmm and I am sure money :cry: ... Much easier to use agencies that send you visa support letters - at the end you whould find out that the money spent are the same but with out headache.
Have a nice trip. We shall cross fingers ;)


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