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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:11 pm 
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barabaika wrote:
When you fly to meet this "verified" woman, you'll be desperate. "I've spent a year dating her via e-mails, I don't have another choice."

But she can always turn you down. For her, it's the same date as with a man living a block away.





What????


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Pete beat me to the appropriate response!!

so I'll say: You really have no clue do you barabaika?


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:50 am 
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Since this post is called An Observation, here is an Observation of mine. I don't mean to start any issues, but I can't help but notice barabaika, that you have a know it all attitude and always leave rude comments pertaining to other peoples opinions. No Offense Barabaika, I am sure your a great guy but for someone who has all the answers and dates so many woman, why are you still single, and why are you still on this website?

I think everything I have read from you on these forums is negative in some fashion. At first I thought it was just the way I was reading what you wrote, but after reading so many of your post I have drawn the conclusion that you don't ever have anything encouraging to say to other people.

Just to quote something you said regarding an earlier post of mine as an example:
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Don't be naive, a beautiful 21-year-old lady can easily find a nice policeman in Belarus. He won't have means to fly to Italy often, that'll be his only flaw. That was the reason she found you.

I'm sure she did not find me just because I was some Police Officer with the means to travel. I would like to think she found me and it was special, and somewhere along the year and three month course of being distant she fell out of love, or like Jscottv said perhaps it was just a bad case of cold feet.

Anyway not trying to start a flame war but just curious as to why you always have something negative to say and never anything positive? Who pissed in your wheaties Barabaika??? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:02 am 
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I can ask you the same question, "Why are you on this website if everything is positive?" There is a line of women waiting for you.


I've had negative experience, that's why I use situations from real life: "You arrive at the airport, she's not there." "You fly to date a 21-year-old model, she doesn't want to marry you." "You've written 100 letters 'I love you' to her, she turns you down."

Yes, when I fly there and date a girl, I feel her interest in money. She already has male friends, a good job ($2,000 salaries after taxes in Moscow are common), a car, etc. What else does she need? When I came to a girl dressed poorly and we didn't go to an expensive restaurant, I felt how she lost interest in me. The longer you wait writing to her, the more male friends she gets - she won't sit and wait, her beauty is fading.

And yes, a year ago I communicated via e-mail with a wonderful girl for half a year, all those "My dear" letters, then I bought a plane ticket. A week before my arrival she told me that we shouldn't meet and posted a photo of her hugging a local guy.

I can tell you something positive. You'll marry a model girl, she won't ask you about money, she'll always obey you and abandon her career, she'll sit home and cook you breakfast, lunch, dinner, and supper.
More positive? If you select a woman with 2 or better 3 children, everything will be easy and quick.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:17 am 
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Well barabaika I can definately see that you have had your fair share of hardships with these woman. And I'm sorry to hear that these events happend to you. And I will agree with you there are alot of woman who share the money hungry trait and want some prince in shining armor to come rescue her, so she can enjoy her free ride for life. The way you talk is as if all woman are like this and if this is so then why continue to seek these woman on LP? I think that you have been hurt in the past but somewhere inside of your soul you have hope that there is a woman out there who is a little different then these woman from your past experiences why else would you still be here?

I know now that my ex girl is an immature 21 year old girl who finaly relized she wasn't ready to get married. But I dont want to hear that the only reason she wanted to be with me was because she was just using me for fun. Thats not something you tell someone who just had their heart ripped out. The purpose of these forums is to support each other not find every loose nail in someones life and hammer them in.

My point is that yes some of these woman are looking for something they see in the movies. They think that just because we are from the United States we are surrounded with money. But there are also woman on here who are not materialistic, who want to be loved just the way you do. So I am not going to let my expierence with my former girl effect future relations. Of course I might be a little more cautious and I might change some of my paterns such as not dating someone so young, but everyone is different we should give them the benifit of doubt.

And to clarify, I don't have problems getting dates with supermodel looking woman here in america. And I do have alot of woman who want to date me. I just choose not to date them because they do not fit my criteria. I prefer woman from Europe over woman here in America that is why I am on this website. I have met some woman that were incrediably hot, and I did not date them because their attitudes were horrible. I am not looking for a supermodel, I am looking for a woman I am attracted to and who's personality enhances her beauty. I think the most beautiful woman I have ever met was very common looking. She had a great personality and this made her extremely cute to me.

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You'll marry a model girl, she won't ask you about money, she'll always obey you and abandon her career, she'll sit home and cook you breakfast, lunch, dinner, and supper.

If this is the kind of woman you are seeking Barabaika its no wonder you haven't found her because she does not exsist. Sounds like your idea of a woman is a slave not a wife. There are good woman out there but your not going to find her if your outlook on woman is this plagued by your past encounters with them.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:51 am 
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barabaika

Just because you and others have had a bad experience, doesn't mean that everyone will. There ARE nice ladies out there who just want to find a loving, caring man.

Perhaps you should consider that it isn't the clothes or money or age that turns the ladies off.. perhaps it is the attitude.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
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svit38 wrote:
If this is the kind of woman you are seeking Barabaika its no wonder you haven't found her because she does not exsist. Sounds like your idea of a woman is a slave not a wife.

I'm not looking for this kind of woman.
Actually, her career is very important for me. My first question, "What would you like to do if you come to America?" I see a lot of Russian women around who are not satisfied because they can't continue to work according to their profession. And no, they are all married. And yes, I ask them advice about relationships.

You told your story not to make us cry, but to find out what went wrong. I can point out. The girl went to Italy to learn Italian and find an Italian guy, not an English-speaking one. You didn't meet her at the airport, she might not give the arrival info. If you still love her, invite her to a nice restaurant, send her a postcard, etc. It'll make you happier.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:16 am 
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jscottv wrote:

Just because you and others have had a bad experience, doesn't mean that everyone will. There ARE nice ladies out there who just want to find a loving, caring man.

Perhaps you should consider that it isn't the clothes or money or age that turns the ladies off.. perhaps it is the attitude.

I don't say anything bad about ladies.

I say that you should prepare to fail because even in real life many relationships, many dates fail. It's much worse for virtual relationships. 15 years ago an American or European passport might help significantly, not anymore. Now people travel everywhere and see that life isn't easy.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:09 pm 
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barabaika wrote:
When you fly to meet this "verified" woman, you'll be desperate. "I've spent a year dating her via e-mails, I don't have another choice."

But she can always turn you down. For her, it's the same date as with a man living a block away.

Don't forget she has spent her year and emotions also! I don't think she does this in order to turn down somebody. Women take the relationships more serious than men anyway (but I speak about adult women not young hotties with dreams at the head about milliarders ).


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
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dorzech wrote:
Anton66 wrote:
communication short and if you are serious visit your lady
Anyway...my reply is a formal request if someone can expand on the "keep communication short" before visiting? Why?

Frankly speaking, it depends on the lady. You always need to keep in mind who and how many other men you are competing with. If you estimate she has many men chasing her, it is necessary to move fast or your chances may be slim. In a previous message I briefly mentioned a lunch date with a Kyiv U professor. She was very attractive, blonde, shapely, taught German at KU, and talked of a few meetings with men from Germany. Although she said she didn't like the German men she had met, in the back of my mind I am guessing this lady probably had many, many opportunities to date and romance the German men. That risk was such that I chose not to gamble my time chasing after her.


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 Post subject: Re: An observation...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:00 pm 
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barabaika wrote:
pdoss wrote:

So, it's better to show you in your best condition, not looking natural. For example, my Ukrainian female friend told me that she thought the man, who is her husband now, was very poor and unattractive when he showed up in a t-shirt and shorts.

Mr B,
I never took a suit or tie with me on any trip. The last thing I wanted was a lady impressed by expensive clothes. But I was looking for a sporty lady, not a princess. Dark dress pants and a dress shirt is perfectly fine. Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable walking through working class FSU neighborhoods or hitchhiking in a $400 suit. I'm not that brave. If you've never traveled there, it is strange to learn that hitchiking is very common and usually safe if you are not alone.


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