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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:02 pm 
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Olga printed the last list... maybe she will do this again.

They will ask questions they assume any "real" fiance' will know. Mother's name, number of brothers, sisters.. what are their names..are you the oldest in your family? for example. Here is a list of questions I found online if it helps.

REMEMBER, these are only examples.. every interview is different

1. How long do you know your fiance?
2. How did you meet?
3. Have you ever been to the US?
4. When is the last time you have seen your fiance?
5. When will you leave for the US?
6. When did we meet in person?
7. When did my fiance propose?
8. Why was my fiance's first marriage not working out?
9. Does my fiance have any kids? How many, how old, who do they live with?
10. When did my fiance divorce?
11. What is my fiance's birthday?
12. What is my birthday?
13. Does my fiance's have any brothers and sisters?
14. Do I have any brothers and sisters?
15. Where do my fiance's parents live?
16. What does my fiance do for a living?
17. Where does my fiance live?
18. Where was he born?
19. What do I love about my fiance?
20. When am I going to leave?
21. When are we going to have the wedding?
22. Have I ever applied for a traveling visa?
23. Where did my fiance visit when he was here?


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Thanks! just what i want. can you post the questions again Olga or tell me where to find that post? Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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Here were mentioned the questions.
Pay attention I put them not as a questions which can be certainly asked for everybody (the questions can be changed already or not all of them are surely asked) ...I put them more as the topics to speak with your girl about...to discuss and understand how serious you both... to worn the boys that you have to pick all docs which can proove that you were together that your desicion about marige is not quick but well thought through and you really know each other...only writting can proove nothing - :lol: no one normal person considers "writting letters means great love" but surely a great start ;) ... may be to show what must be doen in order to get an other level in your relations
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as for me I prefer optimistic view on the process (dating) with a healthy scepticism...that is why to scare you boys useful only in very small dosages. You boys easily fall in panic :lol: - ok not all of you but there are some :D

:lol: :lol: may be that is why i stoped the topic about aids ;) - you have got information to think about but were not scared a lot till the level "no - never sex!!! :shock: "
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rogerm222 you are right as always - I suddenly have understood that what is written here makes a great influence at people....not far ago at the top of the girls (the girls whoes profiles are seen more often) we could see only 19-20 years old girls (may be you didn't pay attention even)...look now - the average age now is near 30 (27-34) ;) and more happy stories
I think to be carefull with words is just useful - yes to worn about negative events too


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:48 pm 
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Hey, MightyDog, I appreciate your enthusiasm. This is a category I started a few months back, and I am happy to see it is still alive on the forum. I hired a US attorney to guide me through the paperwork. I think the cost was around $1,200, but it was 3 years ago and my memory my not be perfect. You can fight your way through the drudgery of paperwork, but I'm glad I let the attorney's computerized system worry about that. I applaud your sensible decision to write to only one women once your decision was well on course. I've read some opinions in forum that I did not agree with...like making one trip to Russia to visit multiple ladies. It seems like a reasonable idea in theory, but the damage that would do to the ladies is what makes it a bad idea. It means you are treating them like commodities, not like caring, feeling people. As to the interview questions... After Lyuda and Tonya were here for about six months we went to a Homeland Security interview. The point of the interview was to determine if we were a "real" marriage and not some sort of scam to get around immigration laws. In my case, the large age difference between my wife and myself was a red flag. When I showed him a stack of photos we had taken two months earlier when we traveled to Hawaii I saw the light change in his eyes. If it was an "arranged marriage" we would not have spent the money to vacation in Hawaii. Today is Super Bowl day. My wife took a Ukrainian friend and 3 teenage girls (from Russia, Ukraine, Thailand) to Busch Gardens and left me at home to work and watch football. Life is good. Congratulations on the adventure you are involved in.


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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Hello all. jcotty, olga,and solarb, thanks for your postings,help and congrdulations. Things are going well with Tatyana although she has said I can call her Tanechka. :-). I do not write to anyone else as I the woman deserve better. It is bad enough they have to put their picture and profile on a public website to compete with one another for something intensely personal as love, they should not be put in the humiliating position of competing with others for your attention when you meet. I placed myself in their position and I would not like it. How many women would offer sex who would not normaly do so because she was not sure what the others would do? When I go to Russia it will be to visit one lady only, hopefully Tanechka. :-) Thanks for listening.


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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hey all just a note to update. I have been writing to a lady about a month now and we spoke to each other for the first time on skype on Sunday morning. Her accent is as beautiful as she is! She teaches English so we are able to understand each other and thus communicate and build our relationship without problems. She is slightly old fashioned believing that the man is the head of the household, she is in my opinion and that is the only one that counts:-) Beautiful, kind, clever, intelligent, attentive. everything a man could dream of. I am so glad I did not listen to the negative posts as I may not have found her as she terminated her account the day after I wrote to her because of a lack of letters. I wrote, she wrote back and the rest is history. I will be planning a trip to Russia the spring of 2011. We both decided to give it a year at the beginning to see how it plays out but this was before we really got to know each other. So at any rate to all those who posted negitive comments about the ladies here. You are wrong. Thanks for listening and all your help


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:37 pm 
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dmart wrote:
RustyHammer wrote:
I am here to hopefully find the woman I want to spend forever with, but joining here was misleading. I am disappointed that I can not respond to some of the women I sent an original flirt to. I can not even read the message they sent to me??? I have no way of knowing if they are interested in me for real, or just looking around. I have been scammed before by web sites like this and feel like this one wants to scam me too. I want to be able to communicate a little with the women on here to see if they are real before I go spending my money to join the site. There are several sites that put pictures of women up to lure men in, but then those women are "no longer members", or otherwise unavailable. I don't mind paying the website for it's services, but they have made it really impossible to verify anything until after you pay, so I think a lot of men like myself will not pay the money to join and get full access to this because of these fears and therefore can not make the connection necessary to end up "happily ever after" There are several women who have emailed me on here and I would be very interested in pursuing them to see where things could go, but I fear they may just be "the lure", so I will not pay and fall victim to the scam. If I could see what they wrote and verify that they are who they say and that they are actually interested in me then I would gladly pay and begin further conversations that would hopefully lead to happily ever after. If they even offered a " 1 time " payment option for a trial full access month I would consider it, but you have to authorize and ongoing payment and then come back to cancel which can sometimes be difficult and result in 4 to 5 months worth of charges. Anyway, this is why I am here and why it has left me in a quandary as to what I should do. Pay and hope, or wait and try to confirm??

Rusty Hammer



Russian Russians have a saying "nothing ventured, nothing gained" " I mean, that he who has not taken any serious steps to achieve a result, fear of being wrong, the result is not never poltschit


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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Hi Solarb: I ge the feeling that there are many men on this site who are less than sincere with the ladies. After meeting them, many of the ladies seem to be lacking trust in the men (understandably). How do we make them realize we are serious, as I feel words are not enough. Sending flowers or gifts can get expensive as just a way to start a conversatiom. Any suggestions?


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Hello Solarb,

Todd is my name and I have met a wonderful l;ady here on lp. We talk on skype daily and Iam going to visit her in sept or november, Iam scared as I have never been To Russia. Growing up during the cold war gives you a lot of ideas of what Russia would be like today! But I really like this lady alot so iam going to visit her. can you give me some advice?

thanks

Todd


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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Canadian1 wrote:
Hi Solarb: I ge the feeling that there are many men on this site who are less than sincere with the ladies. After meeting them, many of the ladies seem to be lacking trust in the men (understandably). How do we make them realize we are serious, as I feel words are not enough. Sending flowers or gifts can get expensive as just a way to start a conversatiom. Any suggestions?


Plan a meeting, and follow through. I'm on my way to Ukraine in August. Also, learn some Russian - not many of the men bother, but it shows a certain commitment level, and that you are willing to work for the relationship as hard as she does. My Russian isn't great, but Ya govoru neemenogo parusski, and she loves it.

Many guys promise a meeting that they have no intention of keeping... eyes were opened when I paid for the hotel in Yalta in advance, and had the hotel send a confirmation notice to her directly. Any doubts she may have had concerning my sincerity to meet have been quashed.

These ladies are SERIOUS, and you better be as well. They have heard all the promises - they want substance. Can't blame them for that when you consider what you are asking of them. Put yourself in her shoes for a moment - are you asking her to leave her country, family and friends for a strange place where her education means almost nothing, and she speaks very little of the language, with only you to depend on? Its a HUGE risk on her part. She has to know that she can trust you literally with her life. Don't just tell her, show her.


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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Do a role reversal in your mind....you meet a woman on here ,fall in love but you need to leave your country and go and live there...?? Now think about that and then you will have your answer.

Women in russia/ukraine etc are let down by men as there cutlture in the cities is simple few available men with decent incomes versus women. The cities are like a sweet shop for men ,lots of choice so even when they are married they will quite happily take a mistress and not even think twice .

You have to be very committed ,honest and supportive of your eastern wife. So dont go into this light hearted . There is a huge commitment .

On another subject today we got our settlement visa ,my wife arrives on monday.

The best advice i can give ,if you want to avoid scams ,use skype...if you want to know if she is the one take the trip spend a week together . Ask yourself can you be 100% for her life?? I hope everyone who wants this finds that special lady.

Best decision in my life...you can see one of my wedding photo's in one of the other topics.
Good luck to all


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 Post subject: Re: Men? Why are you on this site?
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its all about some idea and the concept of having to totaly beautiful women with that wonderful accent. But lets all just face the REAL facts of the matter. Very few men who write to these women are ever going to buy an airline ticket and visit her. And of these rare men a much smaller % are going to marry her and bring her back to their country. In a way its all just a mean game and whats really sad it how many guys are not honest enough to say so.
Don't believe me ? just look at the numbers.....the online singles networking sites are now reaching into the billions of dollars soon to pass the online porn industry yet how many of all these millions of users have EVER once traveled overseas to meet their online contacts.
These sites sell dreams......and now have become home to many scams and less then honest users. Its all about money, even the reason most of these "honest" ladies have posted their profiles here. Ive been to Russia and the Ukraine, don't be fooled. Its a better life they seek and your citizenship is just that they need to get the visa. Under the american K-! visa laws you will have to marry her in 90 days and then if she stays in America even if the relationship fails you have to support her for up to 10 years. Now hows that for a selling point for her desire to come to America? Do you think she is not already aware of this law?
Why do you think that China, Ukraine, Russia and others are the hotspot for these online singles networking sites? Its because these women seek men from countries that can boost their economic situation. Its better to look for a women in a place like New Zealand, Australia or Western Europe. Find a women who wants you not one who needs you. There is a big difference.


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akseakayaker wrote:
.... Why do you think that China, Ukraine, Russia and others are the hotspot for these online singles networking sites? Its because these women seek men from countries that can boost their economic situation. Its better to look for a women in a place like New Zealand, Australia or Western Europe. Find a women who wants you not one who needs you. There is a big difference.



You should definately go this way - New Sealand, Australia and Western Europe :D
and we wish you luck, happiness and guarantees :)


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Here speaks a man with only experience of Russian speaking women in the large cities....very unfortunate if you could look beyond your tarnished image and looked deeper you would realise there is a culture long forgotten in the western world .

If you think western speaking women are any different you are foolong yourself. Every person in the world wants to have a better life...thats the whole problem with world economics....GREED....We suffer from this far more than our russian counter parts.

I have lived there and seen the real country and real people....if you go outside the large cities it is a different world. Family values,morals ,honesty ,respect for individuals....not because of money...because of there nature and culture...We are the poisoned ones. And before you talk about scams.....we invented it .....most of the scams are by russian men.

Anyone on this site don't be put off by stories of misfortune and small % ....one thing is true most men like the idea of a russian wife but then get cold feet when they see cost v risk.
It is not for everyone ....you need inner courage and tenacity because there is a lot of obstacles to over come . About 75% of men on here want all the good things but forget about the barriers then dont follow through. The ones who are really really serious and will take the risk will find the right woman. But my advice think about women from suburban areas they do have a very different set of values.

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akseakayaker wrote:
These sites sell dreams......and now have become home to many scams and less then honest users. Its all about money, even the reason most of these "honest" ladies have posted their profiles here. Ive been to Russia and the Ukraine, don't be fooled. Its a better life they seek and your citizenship is just that they need to get the visa. Under the american K-! visa laws you will have to marry her in 90 days and then if she stays in America even if the relationship fails you have to support her for up to 10 years. Now hows that for a selling point for her desire to come to America? Do you think she is not already aware of this law?
Why do you think that China, Ukraine, Russia and others are the hotspot for these online singles networking sites? Its because these women seek men from countries that can boost their economic situation. Its better to look for a women in a place like New Zealand, Australia or Western Europe. Find a women who wants you not one who needs you. There is a big difference.

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: wow good laws!!! By the way interesting to know if you have found the woman in a place like New Zealand, Australia or Western Europe such laws do, work too????

You see all your words are right...about dreamers at the sites about "to find who wants you not one who needs you"...but men are strange :D once the idea comes to his head: "I want this woman" so no reasons are usefull for him any more and he acts :D and overcomes all barriers....women are another - first she will look around what she has already and only if it would be better she will change something. Because she always thinks about family first (I mean the man+children - doesn't matter if she has already or only plans them). The man first thinks about his best :D how it would be good for him when she is near :D
;) that is why we have such stories when the men send money for hotty girls (20th) "to develope her bussness" although know well it is not clever idea but nevertheless do :D because no reasons are working for him


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